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It's great that the ACLU and these celebrities are doing something.... I'm curious why they aren't doing something tangible, something effective, something useful. Kim Kardashian talked to the pres and got a woman out of prison. So, it's evident that it's not impossible for the Hollywood elite to effect a result. Reading this letter is good, it's a start, but, is it accomplishing anything? Imagine the publicity machine if ONE superstar went to Mexico, and hung out with peopl e coming to the USA illegally. (Crossing the border with no visa) and sponsored any number of immigrants as an employer, with an H1B visa. That's all it takes to help the people showing up on the border with Mexico. I can't address the way millionaire celebs spend their fortunes, how making 10-20 million a movie (each movie) and how joining together (as this video demonstrates they can, and do) they could solve this problem. SOLVE, not just affect, but solve this problem, if they partnered up, created a company or corporation, employed the very immigrants they are right here in this video speaking on behalf of, hired a law firm, and got them and some other smart pros to issue H1Bs to anyone making it to the USA, and then paid those new immigrants to make the world a better place for immigrants. If they built trade schools to teach immigrants to construct, wire, plumb, and paint new homes. Built schools to educate the kids of the immigrants. Built hospitals to handle the immigrants medical needs, and staff everything with immigrants who show up by the 10s of thousands, or more, every year. Or, they can read a letter. And tomorrow, the problem continues unchecked. PS, compliments to you JB on your acting, photography (saw the exhibit at the San Diego Museum of Photography about 20 years ago) and activism. __________________ Jesse Bowers
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Jesse B. You make an excellent point. Very well stated and I agree with you.
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I agree, too. Wouldn't it be great to start a non-partisan group of celebrities or wealthy people to effect positive change? It might be a bit like herding cats but they could certainly get the word out. Perhaps we need someone like Bono to do a Band Aid type concert thing where they all give speeches in between the music...
But I know you mean more practical solutions than that - I'm wondering what it would take to motivate them. And also, how imminent the new McCathy era is.
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Shouldn't seeing all the various kinds of suffering motivate them?
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motivation... is a thing that gets us moving. A goal is something else. Unless the person motivated has a goal, they are simply agitated. Reading this letter was very cool, participating in a group protest of treatment that isn't to the level we'd appreciate, or even consider normal.... that is a good thing.
However, when there isn't a goal, an objective to achieve more than that, then it's an indication that there wasn't a leadership factor to attain a goal that would better remedy the problem they are protesting. What good is a protest, if it is not accomplishing anything more than "awareness" and other warm fuzzy emotional useless effects. To motivate others? Maybe. When it's only the Hollywood / actors / entertainers... then, is it not plausible that their agents, handlers, assistants, friends or families point out how good it would be for them to do this pro bono thing, and maintain their good standing, good will, admiration from their fans? In the face of such an emotional and kind gesture of speaking out from such luminaries, it's possibly unkind to guess that any of them did this for anything less than a noble reason. But I'm not a moron, and I've learned that some people need things to keep them in front of the news, a part of a viral thing, to be "trending" and relevant. Aka, famous, for doing nothing (kardashian/hilton/lohan factor). Anyway, I thought about this letter, the celebs, and then what was missing, and possibly what would solve the problem they brought to the general public's attention.... and then realized that no one mentioned a solution. Here are a couple billion dollars of celebs, and they have nothing to waste those billions on, and will die incredibly wealthy. OR instead of being all hot air, they might be simply waiting for an idea that would solve the problem THEY spoke up about. __________________ Jesse Bowers